Dr. Geipel has been providing Applied Kinesiology (AK), Total Body Modification (TBM), and Neuro-Emotional Technique (NET) to the Western Chicago Suburbs, including Bolingbrook for over 30 years! We see Dr. Geipel on a regular basis at continuing education seminars, so when we decided to do this series on the best and brightest doctors in our area, it was a no-brainer to visit Doc and ask him some burning questions about his practice.
Jeff West and Dr. Geipel chatting about organic farming.
Tell us about common cases that come through your practice.
“After 33 years of working at this, most of the people that I focus on now are the people with the illnesses of my age group–baby boomers around 60.
There are a lot of people at my age who are overweight, although I don’t focus on weight loss I can help those with thyroid problems or diabetes. I can help people who have cardiovascular disease, abnormal rhythm, or high blood pressure. I work with people dealing with autoimmune diseases and adrenal problems. I help them all. These are the main focuses in my practice.”
Dr. Geipel doing a Ileo Cecal Valve (ICV) treatment.
How are you assessing adrenal function?
“Well, when testing at our office we use a multitude of determinations. We use the Acoustic CardioGraph, which was developed by Royal Lee back in the 1930s. So if they have that, it’ll show up on the Acoustic CardioGraph, because the first sound will be followed, and the second sound in the aortic position.
We look for the paradoxical pupil, which if the person does have adrenal fatigue, shine a light in there, the pupil will not stay closed. It closes and then opens up. Depending on the severity of the adrenal issue, the pupil will waver–close, open, close, open, close, open.
I also use what’s called the ligament stretch test, which is a stretch test on the body. That’s how we can determine which particular nutrient the person needs to help nourish the adrenal glands.”
Dr. Geipel has a busy chiropractic practice!
“We do Raglands test. We measure everybody’s blood pressure on three positions, which probably 99.99 percent of doctors never do. If a patient is in really bad shape, and I find that a lot of times in the cancer patients, that they have an extreme adrenal disease … So with the Raglands test, the record was somebody that had lung cancer. Their blood pressure dropped 39 points from lying to standing. And it’s supposed to go up 10 points.”
Let’s talk about digestion.
“So, digestion. Pretty much anybody over the age of 30 could benefit from digestive enzymes. That’s because people eat proteins and carbs together. I’ll talk to you more about how the Separation Diet can help.
I have certain tests to assess digestion. We do a lot of work with people with GERD and hiatal hernia. In any given day, I probably treat anywhere from five to ten people with a hiatal hernia.”
Here Dr. Geipel is assessing Jeff’s digestive sphincters.
What is food combining (or the Separation Diet)?
“Dr. Goodheart, the developer of AK, actually calls it the Food Combining Diet. I coined the name for the Separation Diet because you’re separating your proteins and carbohydrates. You need a different environment to digest proteins than you do for carbohydrates. Your stomach needs a highly acid environment to digest the proteins.
So let’s say you’re going to have a carb dinner, then you have just a carb dinner. So it’s almost like you have a vegetarian dinner. If you’re going to have protein, have just protein. So say you’re going to have a protein for dinner. We’ll just say it’s a piece of meat. If you’re going to have vegetables with it, you can have any green vegetable, and eat a low carbohydrate diet. Or low carb vegetables, you know, that fall into that, like string beans or broccoli.
Then if you’ve got to have a bread diet, you could have some rice if you want rice, or some like to eat oatmeal for breakfast, right? I never advise anybody to just have oatmeal, because just like if you leave oatmeal in the pot, and it forms that big wad of dough, it’ll do the same thing in your belly. So I always tell them they need to have something like an apple, with it. Something with a good solid fiber. So not applesauce, but solid apples. Raisins as an add-in would work too. That way, it keeps the dough separated so your body has more surface area. The same thing goes with pasta. You don’t want to just eat pasta. But if you’re going to have a pasta meal, have some broccoli or cauliflower mixed in with it. Personally, I really don’t eat pasta. I probably eat pasta maybe two, three times a year. I really don’t eat pasta because it forms that wad, and it’s not really a healthy meal.”
Dr. Geipel shows us how the HPA axis works.
How do you see digestion relating to hypothyroid, or thyroid conditions?
“Well, the thing is, when the thyroid is off, it throws off a lot of things. It depends whether a person’s hypo or hyper. If somebody’s hyper, they’re basically going to be in sympathetic mode. So they will not be in a digestive mode–they’ll be in fight or flight, meaning they’ll have a lot of indigestion.
Then a hypothyroid person won’t digest the food because everything’s too low. So a person won’t be just hypothyroid. When somebody’s hypothyroid, they’re going to have problems with their adrenals, they’ll have problems with their whole endocrine system. So it’s just those two key things. You’re either going to not be able to digest because it’s like you’re in fight or flight, so digestion shuts off, or you’re not going to have the metabolism to digest the food if you’re hypothyroid.”
This doctor knows his stuff! We could listen to Dr. Geipel all day about how he approaches challenging cases.
What would be your one desert island supplement pick?
“I’d have to choose between Cyrofood or Catalyn. Catalyn was Royal Lee’s first product. It has everything in it. So I’d rather have something that has an equal amount of everything, and then you have it that way. Now, to jump in, and how I would take Cyrofood ahead of it…the Cyrofood also has the oat flour in it. So if I’m on an island, and I’m not really eating the bones of the fish, and I don’t know whether there are green vegetables there, I would need some support for my skeletal system. And as long as I had a never-ending supply because usually, you take twice as much of the Cyrofood as you do the Catalyn, then I’d go with the Cyrofood because it’s such a whole food supplement. Actually, I don’t call them ‘vitamins,’ I call them ‘nutrients,’ because they don’t just have vitamins. They’ve got everything else in there. So that would be my choice, Cyrofood.”
Among his broad range of techniques he uses to assess the health of an individual is the mighty muscle test.
Can you recall a recent case that amazed you because you were able to help someone with a chronic issue?
“Actually, I have one that’s not recent. I’d say it’s probably the coolest one, in one sense. I had a patient come in who was a chiropractor’s dad. He was in his late 80’s, had congestive heart failure, and he was given a month to live. His function was so weak, he could hardly talk, and he was swollen. We fixed an Acoustic CardioGraph on him. We gave him the nutrients and normally I see a person that comes in for nutrition on day one, and I’ll see them two weeks later. In his case, I chose to see him about a week later.
He comes in five days later, ecstatic. He’s not being held up by his son and his daughter. He’s walking in like he’s about 30 to 40 years younger, spry as a young buck. And he’s talking a mile a minute. He goes, ‘This stuff is great. We got my energy back.’ He just was so ecstatic. Now granted, he did die eight months later, but it wasn’t congestive heart failure. He died of a heart attack, and I say he died of a broken heart. He wasn’t coming in at the time, but I was notified. They moved him from his house, that he lived with his wife for over 60 years. Took him and his wife out of that house and moved him into the son’s house. And in a week he died of a heart attack. So I feel he died of a broken heart. That’s similar to what happened to Parker. They took Old Man Parker out of Parker College. He died of a heart attack.”
Dr. Geipel with his daughter who helps run his front desk.
If you could give your younger self or other young practitioners a bit of advice, what points would you make?
“I would tell them to make sure that they look up the Applied Kinesiology route if they plan on doing nutrition. And to get started there and how it’d be a good baseline. And then what would happen is, the rest would just fall into place. I started studying applied kinesiology in 1981 when I first went to chiropractic college. And I went to the AK Club, and when I saw that just by adding a nutrient or rubbing a point, I could change the strength of the person … So somebody that is weak or showing an imbalance, and then I could either give them a supplement, or rub a point, and it would correct that problem right there, so that not only did I know it, but the patient knew, that was the solution to their problem. And over the years, that is the thing that has made me successful.”
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